The uninsured get good care anyway and the only uninsured people are bad people, so it’s their fault that they get bad care (eh?) pt 2
“people are too stupid to shop around for the best insurance
You liberals stupidly think health care is a right [Actually 85% of Americans do believe healthcare is a right ]
Couldn't we solve the uninsured problem by deporting illegal aliens?
[Speaking of the California plan for universal insurance] Of the 4.2 million, 4.19999 million are illegal aliens that Perata would love to be able to get their votes. The State of Confusion is already screwed enough, not to insure all the bums and scumbag illegals that have invaded us. Perata talks of mostly the working poor. I think he meant the welfare receiving illegal poor.”
Yeah, what lovely people. And these views are not widely held. The illegal immigrant lie is particularly egregious (and I think we can see where these commentators are coming from, from the tone of their comments) and I will turn to this in a later entry, but suffice to say that the total cost of healthcare for undocument workers is vanishingly small (by the best estimates I could find perhaps between 0.1 and 0.2% of total US healthcare expenditure, even by the worst case scenarios made out by anti-immigration groups this climbs to 0.3%), and at least three quarters of the uninsured are not undocumented workers.
However, expressed less offensively this idea of “deserving and undeserving” mentality is widespread, both in American health policy, and in voter attitudes to healthcare. The morality of dividing groups into deserving and undeserving (which certainly could not be done by wealth, but perhaps could be on grounds of health related behaviours) is profoundly complex and we could debate for years without ever quite resolving it. This is perhaps why when health authorities were seriously considering explicit rationing in the UK in the 1990s it was very difficult to get further in what should be excluded for public purchase than tattoo removal.
So let’s consider the practical consequences, instead. This simplistic division creates massive extra costs. Obviously if some are excluded, then the included must prove their inclusion – this creates bureaucracy and cost around the transaction of proving inclusion, hence filling in 5 forms a the doctors before being seen.
More fundamentally though, the question remains of what does one do with the excluded, those without insurance. The logic of the undeserving position is to let them die in the street – but that’s very difficult to live with. The alternative is to treat those in extremis via emergency care. But this leads to worse outcomes and is incredibly expensive. If this was a sensible way of organizing healthcare – all healthcare would be organized like that. And someone has to pay for it – and that is of course those with insurance. Insurance premiums are more expensive to cover the free-rider problem caused by the uninsured having to get very expensive emergency care because they don’t get adequate preventive care up front.
The American College of Physicians calculated the costs of healthcare to the uninsured in 2001 as juts shy of $100bn, of which $35bn was not borne by the uninsured- increasing costs elsewhere. They also estimated that each hospital stay by an uninsured person was 13% or $650 per stay more than for insured individuals.
Given the real public concern about the unacceptable costs of uninsurance, rather than the philosophical problems of maintaining the idea of an undeserving population should be the focus of those wishing to challenge the first convenient untruth.